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  Sodomite resurrection flip-flops -- recent WT confession?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  within the last few years i understand watchtower has issued a concession (no apology) of minor proportion.

  they don't admit to the avalanche of some 8 sequential positions (yes, no, yes, no, ...) of, "will the sodomites receive a resurrection?".

  i think they admit to about three of them.

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  it-2 p. 985 Sodom ***

  "It will be more endurable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on Judgment Day than for that city." Sodom and Gomorrah were everlastingly destroyed as cities,but this would not preclude a resurrection for people of those cities.—Jude 7; Mt 10:15;

  This quote leads me to conclude that the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah were not the real sinners, they were just collateral damage. The real sinners were the houses, roads and building of those cities. They deserve "everlasting destruction", not the people in it. No wonder C.T. Russell and pretty much everyone of his successors believe that nobody can understand the Bible without their books.
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  The GB's Obsession with the Catholics

  by TTATTelder in

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  2. beliefs

  the gb for some reason is completely fixated on the roman catholic church (rcc).

  they should just say that the rcc is babylon the great and get it over with.. the "world empire of false religion" ??

  how often do they talk about muslims?

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  never a jw

  Quite ironic, it was the early Cartholic church that created, copied, translated and basically preserved JW's sacred book. A bunch of apostates, as Doug Mason would say, assembled the Bible. The Bible was the main product of the greatest "apostasy" after the second century, and it was courtesy of the people who formed the Catholic church.
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  JW.org Bumper Sticker

  by A.proclaimer in

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  2. friends

  i saw this at the kingdom hall after the meeting.

  "advertise, advertise, advertise!- christendom style".

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  never a jw

  how long before the WT starts relying on ads in jw.org for revenue? I think is coming, not soon, but coming
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  What Motivates Jehovah's Witnesses To Stay In The Religion?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i believe it is mostly guilt.

  many witnesses pioneer or "reach out" in the religion because they feel guilty.. they may feel they aren't doing enough.

  they may have secretly "sinned" against rules imposed by the organization.

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  What motivates..... I would say What forces JW's to stay.

  The short answer is fear.
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  3 years of study, Just found out!

  by impala63rag in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello friends, .

  i would like some advice from those that are inpartial, and are familiar with the teachings of jw.

  i studied with a wonderful jw couple weekly for 3 years.

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  never a jw

  Don't run away. Do research about JW's. It abounds in the internet and most of it is very relaible because it came out of the Watchtower printers. Once you know few of the controversies, start asking questions. Just don't be confrontational. You may be able to plant a seed that will grow and help liberate people from the authoritarian and cruel grasp of this evil organization.
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  3 years of study, Just found out!

  by impala63rag in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello friends, .

  i would like some advice from those that are inpartial, and are familiar with the teachings of jw.

  i studied with a wonderful jw couple weekly for 3 years.

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  never a jw

  Let me summarize my main observations:

  Science: They (Jehovah's witnesses) rely on science to gather information to show their readers how wonderful creation is, but reject it the moment it offers any evidence that challenges their dogma or theology.

  History: They need historians to obtain dates to back up their multiple failed prophecies, but reject historians when they show that their theology is founded on error. Then they fabricate their own history. Research the destruction of Jerusalem, was it in 607 or 587?

  Archaeology: same as above.

  Linguistics: They need linguists, especially experts of the ancient languages of the Bible, but reject them the moment their theology is threatened. Research "the Cross"

  Biblical Scholarship: same as above.

  The double standards are all over the place. Is it hypocrisy or the leaders don't know what they are doing?. It's a combination, I believe. However the main reason is that they want to maintain absolute power at all cost over the innocent rank and file.

  The list of inconsistencies is very, very long. Do your research and when you are done, start teaching your teachers. they are innocent victims that need help.

  I have never been a JW
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  It's official too: I will be DF'd... probably next Wednesday

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  i will write my story soon... .

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  Life begins.
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  Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

  by Skeptical78 in

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  2. beliefs

  i recently became aware of the new light.

  please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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  Hey Billy the kid.

  Just be persistent. Don't leave. Don't stop debating. In time, just like many in here, you will become another apostate. That's the power of truth.

  The U.N. is not a cult. However, it admits even cults as NGO's. Wait... it's at the tip of my tongue, Wat..ever. Watchery.... got it. Watchtower is the name of a cult that was as a U.N. NGO in the 90's.
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  Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

  by Skeptical78 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently became aware of the new light.

  please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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  "Your truth is your truth, and mine is mine"

  Typical cultish response. History is probability. You guys can settle your differences by accepting the evidence. Compare the different scenarios and embrace the most probale one. The evidence says the Watchtower is very probably wrong and they know it. therefore they are liars.

  Read Carl Olof Jonsson's "Gentile Times Reconsidered" and put the evidence he presents to the test. I did. He is right, the Watchtower is lying
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  Do religous people have a higher / lesser I.Q.than non religous people ? Or vice-versa. Or is it irrelevant..

  by smiddy in

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  2. friends

  maybe a bit of background information here to see where i am going with this thread.i only had a basic education , leaving school as a 14 year old.

  though being grouded in the three r`s reading, righting, and rithmatic.my first job lasted over 12years , had a few interesting jobs in the intervening years , and my last job lasted 28 years.

  retiring at the age of 68 years.i consider myself fortunate to have had a good work ethic.now getting back to my topic , i was converted as a 20 year old , and as i said with only a basic education .

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  Being an atheist since 13 because my dislike of the unloving God and my love of science, I can understand your position. I am also amazed as how cults can control people as intelligent as many of the best posters here. It's a big mystery. Seeing is believing. Cults do have a power that I can't explain. Just amazing!